Greetings!
I hope this message finds you well. While I have come to love writing about LOST every week, I am struggling to do it this time. I was sorely disappointed with this episode and hopefully by putting my thoughts on
paper I will come to some new revelations. However, my initial reaction is that the episode totally stalled the momentum that was building in the previous two — it was repetitive, boring and classic "filler" material.
*sigh*
So, we found out how Jack got his tattoo (or part of it at least), we know where the children and Cindy are, and we realized how idiotic Sawyer is... Were these the THREE HUGE MYSTERIES REVEALED?? Was there anything in this episode we didn't know?
I cannot believe that after such an amazing and tantalizing Desmond episode last week, they made us sit through this. I'll try to bring up some relative, and hopefully interesting points, but I'm not sure I'll have much to say.
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"Stranger in a Strange Land" - Episode 309 -
1) Jack's flashback — We already knew Jack went to Thailand and that is where he got his tattoo...or mark. The only new thing we found out is who gave him this mark, what it "means" (not says), and what the immediate consequences of it were. I felt overall that this flahsback story was flat. We can figure out that this took place shortly after his divorce with Sarah and prior to his return to the States to deal with his dad, but it lacked any real substance. If we never knew the specifics of this story it would not affect our perception of Jack. Now, for example, if we never learned of Jack's divorce and/or his daddy problems, then he would be somewhat of a mystery to us. But does it really take a "seer" to tell us Jack is a leader and that he is lonely and angry?? We could have told him that after watching the pilot episode!
2) When will the right questions be asked? — A LOT of people are complaining about this episode. Most are simply frustrated with the characters not pressing for answers. Like Sawyer letting Karl go... Good grief, the kid obviously has been on the Island for some time and knows SOMETHING about what the Others are doing. But Sawyer decides to let him go to probably die trying to get his girl back. I don't think it would be as bad if the characters at least ASKED the questions and then didn't get defined answers...but they are not even asking!
I read an interesting post (thanks "MerlboroMan") that included a few instances of dialogue where one extra line would have made a big difference —
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"I get frustrated with the show sometimes, as much as I love it, and it's because it feels like there is 'intelligent' dialogue missing. Last night was a prime example of where if one person would have said one more thing at the right time we may have actually learned something.
For example:
Tom: People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Missing Jack response: Exactly how does that apply? What did we ever do to you to deserve what you've done to us?
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Kate: Better life than what?
Karl: Better than yours.
Missing Kate Response: So rather than help people who crash landed on an island you just randomly kidnap whomever you deem worthy of a better life?
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Cindy: She wants to know how is Ana Lucia?
Jack: Are you kidding?...
Missing Jack Rant: Ana Lucia is dead because of these people!
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See there, one extra line and we've actually got some tension and some pointed questions that may actually give us answers. I feel however, that sometimes, the writers dumb down the charactes in order to keep up
certain mysteries. That's not good writing, that's poor execution."
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Certainly this is arguable, but right now it seems that keeping the mysteries hidden is the higher priority.
3) The turnaround — Okay, so, I DO trust that the writers know what they are doing and that they are giving us all of this for a reason. I believe it was a transitional episode (hopefully) to set us up for some
big info on the Others. I think we will begin to see the Others in a different light once we learn about what they were doing before our LOSTies showed up. I'm really starting to entertain the thought of Jack
becoming...one of them...the new Ethan. This would be a great direction to head in — the LOSTies spend lots of time and energy to rescue Jack and when they find him, he does not want to return with them. Or better
yet, during their search for him, they meet a creepy Ethan-esque Jack in the jungle who attacks them and yells, "I TOLD YOU NEVER TO COME BACK!!!!" Hahaha, yeah, I know, I'm way ahead of myself but with LOST, even the most ridiculous ideas are possible.
One of the more interesting aspects of this episode was Isabel (the sheriff) and the structure of the disciplinary system that Others have set up. A trial for Juliet, eh? One in which all the captives (except Jack) and invited to watch? Hmmm, sounds a little fishy... Possibly a mock-trial to fool Jack and push him closer to Juliet? Why would they want that? Is Juliet aware? All I know is Isabel was creeping me out and I would have told her anything she wanted to know....apparently, she would've known if I was lying anyway.
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Well I guess I had more to say than I originally thought. Still no new revelations. I have to admit that it's a little fun to take a turn "bashing" the show I have come to love so much. It was a little disappointing, mainly because the flow of the season feels inconsistent, but we have a lot of season left and I'm pretty sure they will use it to satisfy their fans. I think Damon Lindelof recently said something like (completely paraphrasing here), "We understand if fans get frustrated and upset after watching one episode — if they feel that way after the season ends, then that's a whole different story."
I truly hope you are enjoying the season, even if we get a couple of dud episodes. There are bound to be a few in a series like this, especially with so many mysteries and the fans picking them apart like crazy.
I still LOVE the show and have a great deal of respect for all those involved. I just hope we can start that momentum again and keep it rolling this time!
Namaste.
SFO
22 February 2007
16 February 2007
"Not In Portland" -Episode 3.07-
Greetings!
Ah, how good it feels to be writing about this again. I have sorely missed the weekly dose of our favorite show and am more than happy to again be giving my time to dissect these new episodes.
The rest of this season will be full of new twists, turns, revelations and of course, questions. But by the end of season 3, I think there will be some closure to the Others, why they are there, and why they do what they do. Remember how foreign the hatch was at the beginnig of season 2? Well I believe we will reach a similar sense of closure with the Others as we did with the hatch as the end of last season.
Okay, now to the episode...
"Not in Portland"
1) The first Other flashback — Juliet is, in fact, a fertility doctor. But not just any fertility doctor, she is apparently one who is leading new research and one who is highly demanded (at least by Mittelos). She
successfully impregnated a male mouse, and her sister as well. (You probably won't hear that last comment in any other context.) So what exactly does this treatment consist of? How long had she been injecting
her sis with that juice? Should Juliet have been more concerned with trying to get her sister healthy first before impregnating her? Why was her research so radical? Is it possible that Rachel was a man at one point?
As usual, lots of questions raised... But I think there are two main things to take away from this first Juliet flashback — one, we know why Mittelos/Hanso/the Others wanted her (her successful experiment was a large part of this) and second, the flashback was to show us how Juliet has transformed from an emotionally weak follower to a ruthless, coldblooded leader.
(Also, did anyone notice the Oceanic plane landing as Juliet opened the window to show the Miami skyline? Did anyone notice the bus waiting just about 100 yards down the road while Juliet spoke with her ex? Sneaky, sneaky Mr. Hanso...ahem, I mean Alpert)
2) Mittelos — What exactly is Mittelos? Why exactly do they want Juliet? I think it is safe to assume that she was brought to the Island shortly after her meeting with (creepy) Ethan and Jason Alpert to do some sort of fertility experiment. Who's womb was shown to Juliet in her interview? A 26-year-old with the womb of a 70-year-old? Was this women/is this
woman on the Island? Hmmm... And apparently he was right, they do extensive recruiting — Ethan and Dr. Alpert set up close to Juliet and her sister to get the inside scoop. But what is the connection between
Mittelos and the Others?
I read that the creators said this episode would feature an anagram meaning something very important. Many people believe that Mittelos is it. Mittelos can be rearranged to read "Lost time" or "Time lost." Some
believe that this is referencing the "jump the shark" moment that is supposed to occur this season...possibly some sort of time traveling/time manipulating/time folding allusion. Others believe it is simply another red herring meant to lead our attention away from what is really going on. Either way, the Mittelos dudes were creepy, they killed
Edmund Burke (in my opinion) and they took fair Juliet away from her sister and into the clutches of Ben.
3) "I'm Tom, by the way" — I don't know about any of you, but Tom is starting to grow on me. He's been labeled "the Hurley of the Others" because everyone seems to like him. Kinda hard to believe that not too
long ago he was the creepy bearded dude that told our LOSTies to stay away. How could anyone be scared of Tom? Funny too, how he was so disgusted by blood, haha.
4) The boss's daughter — I think this was the most we have seen of Alex in the entire series. Clearly there is a rift between her and the rest of the Others but I'm not sure for what reason, other than that her and Karl probably do not agree with what the Others are doing. She was called Ben's daughter in this episode, but I don't necessarily think that means she is his biological offspring. Rosseau's Alex was taken when she was a baby and so she was probably raised by Ben and the Others. Then again, who knows if and when Rosseau is telling the truth?
5) Jack — What else needs to be said? Love him or hate him, he's keeping this story going. I love to see Jack in control...even if he doesn't know how to use his inside voice. Since Jack has completed his end of the bargain, will Ben let him go "home?" Or did his little outburst during the surgery ruin that chance for him? It will be interesting to see how Jack is treated now since he saved Ben's life. I hope he'll get some say in matters, but something tells me that's not going to happen just yet...
6) "At the end of the hall, Room 23" — Woh, what was that room where Karl was being held? I totally reacted the same way as Sawyer...totally entranced. Was this a way to brainwash or reprogram Others who have disobeyed? Or was it simply punishment? Did Sawyer see something in
particular that caught his attention or was he just caught off guard? I'm sure that in due time, the people who are more obsessed with LOST than I am will post every frame of that video Karl was being shown.
And you know I'll pass the links along...
Also, Kate did not seem to be affected much by the weirdness of this room. Is it possible that she has been in there before and knew to look away in order not to be taken by the video? She did look awfully rough when she came back from her breakfast with Ben. I remember Walt saying that he did not want to go back into "the room" when he was being taken away from Michael at the end of season 2. Maybe Walt has also been inside this place?
7) Yay, Pickett's dead! — If you hate Juliet, you had to at least like her during that second when she shot that bastard. That might be the one character I will not miss! Oh wait, make it two. (...Ana Lucia...)
Okay well that's all the time I have for this week. I'm sure there's a lot I missed so please feel free to write back and get the discussion going. I didn't have much time to edit so hope you can make sense of my blathering.
I am really looking forward to the rest of this season and I think it will rise above anything we have seen yet. I am waiting on the edge of my seat for the "jump the shark" moment!
Namaste.
SFO
Ah, how good it feels to be writing about this again. I have sorely missed the weekly dose of our favorite show and am more than happy to again be giving my time to dissect these new episodes.
The rest of this season will be full of new twists, turns, revelations and of course, questions. But by the end of season 3, I think there will be some closure to the Others, why they are there, and why they do what they do. Remember how foreign the hatch was at the beginnig of season 2? Well I believe we will reach a similar sense of closure with the Others as we did with the hatch as the end of last season.
Okay, now to the episode...
"Not in Portland"
1) The first Other flashback — Juliet is, in fact, a fertility doctor. But not just any fertility doctor, she is apparently one who is leading new research and one who is highly demanded (at least by Mittelos). She
successfully impregnated a male mouse, and her sister as well. (You probably won't hear that last comment in any other context.) So what exactly does this treatment consist of? How long had she been injecting
her sis with that juice? Should Juliet have been more concerned with trying to get her sister healthy first before impregnating her? Why was her research so radical? Is it possible that Rachel was a man at one point?
As usual, lots of questions raised... But I think there are two main things to take away from this first Juliet flashback — one, we know why Mittelos/Hanso/the Others wanted her (her successful experiment was a large part of this) and second, the flashback was to show us how Juliet has transformed from an emotionally weak follower to a ruthless, coldblooded leader.
(Also, did anyone notice the Oceanic plane landing as Juliet opened the window to show the Miami skyline? Did anyone notice the bus waiting just about 100 yards down the road while Juliet spoke with her ex? Sneaky, sneaky Mr. Hanso...ahem, I mean Alpert)
2) Mittelos — What exactly is Mittelos? Why exactly do they want Juliet? I think it is safe to assume that she was brought to the Island shortly after her meeting with (creepy) Ethan and Jason Alpert to do some sort of fertility experiment. Who's womb was shown to Juliet in her interview? A 26-year-old with the womb of a 70-year-old? Was this women/is this
woman on the Island? Hmmm... And apparently he was right, they do extensive recruiting — Ethan and Dr. Alpert set up close to Juliet and her sister to get the inside scoop. But what is the connection between
Mittelos and the Others?
I read that the creators said this episode would feature an anagram meaning something very important. Many people believe that Mittelos is it. Mittelos can be rearranged to read "Lost time" or "Time lost." Some
believe that this is referencing the "jump the shark" moment that is supposed to occur this season...possibly some sort of time traveling/time manipulating/time folding allusion. Others believe it is simply another red herring meant to lead our attention away from what is really going on. Either way, the Mittelos dudes were creepy, they killed
Edmund Burke (in my opinion) and they took fair Juliet away from her sister and into the clutches of Ben.
3) "I'm Tom, by the way" — I don't know about any of you, but Tom is starting to grow on me. He's been labeled "the Hurley of the Others" because everyone seems to like him. Kinda hard to believe that not too
long ago he was the creepy bearded dude that told our LOSTies to stay away. How could anyone be scared of Tom? Funny too, how he was so disgusted by blood, haha.
4) The boss's daughter — I think this was the most we have seen of Alex in the entire series. Clearly there is a rift between her and the rest of the Others but I'm not sure for what reason, other than that her and Karl probably do not agree with what the Others are doing. She was called Ben's daughter in this episode, but I don't necessarily think that means she is his biological offspring. Rosseau's Alex was taken when she was a baby and so she was probably raised by Ben and the Others. Then again, who knows if and when Rosseau is telling the truth?
5) Jack — What else needs to be said? Love him or hate him, he's keeping this story going. I love to see Jack in control...even if he doesn't know how to use his inside voice. Since Jack has completed his end of the bargain, will Ben let him go "home?" Or did his little outburst during the surgery ruin that chance for him? It will be interesting to see how Jack is treated now since he saved Ben's life. I hope he'll get some say in matters, but something tells me that's not going to happen just yet...
6) "At the end of the hall, Room 23" — Woh, what was that room where Karl was being held? I totally reacted the same way as Sawyer...totally entranced. Was this a way to brainwash or reprogram Others who have disobeyed? Or was it simply punishment? Did Sawyer see something in
particular that caught his attention or was he just caught off guard? I'm sure that in due time, the people who are more obsessed with LOST than I am will post every frame of that video Karl was being shown.
And you know I'll pass the links along...
Also, Kate did not seem to be affected much by the weirdness of this room. Is it possible that she has been in there before and knew to look away in order not to be taken by the video? She did look awfully rough when she came back from her breakfast with Ben. I remember Walt saying that he did not want to go back into "the room" when he was being taken away from Michael at the end of season 2. Maybe Walt has also been inside this place?
7) Yay, Pickett's dead! — If you hate Juliet, you had to at least like her during that second when she shot that bastard. That might be the one character I will not miss! Oh wait, make it two. (...Ana Lucia...)
Okay well that's all the time I have for this week. I'm sure there's a lot I missed so please feel free to write back and get the discussion going. I didn't have much time to edit so hope you can make sense of my blathering.
I am really looking forward to the rest of this season and I think it will rise above anything we have seen yet. I am waiting on the edge of my seat for the "jump the shark" moment!
Namaste.
SFO
"Flashes Before Your Eyes" -Episode 3.08-
Greetings!
I hope this message finds you well. My head is still spinning from this episode as it was such a pivotal point in the show. Of course it was very LOSTesque and yet completely different from anything we have seen
before. I think it represents Desmond very well, and how he differs from everyone else on the Island.
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Season 3 — Episode 308
"Flashes Before Your Eyes"
Oh where to begin.....Well, in the spirit of a new episode format, I'll try something different too. Let me just tell you what I think happened in this episode and what I believe is happening overall...
While I was at first confused by this episode, I've come to the conclusion that it was pretty straightforward — "Flashes Before Your Eyes" was
Desmond's interactive flashback. Right after he turned the failsafe key (or right before, I haven't decided), Desmond's life flashes before his eyes (hence the episode name) and he relives two extremely important (and painful) days from his life prior to crashing on the Island. This might seem obvious, but at first I was looking for something that wasn't
there. I wanted it to be some crazy time traveling episode where LOST presented something completely unexpected...but eventually I realized that by giving us a straightforward episode, that's exactly what they
were doing.
This flashback was the earliest in Desmond's life that we've seen. This is how I understand his life so far: He has been with Penny for two years and goes to ask Mr. Widmore's permission for her hand in marriage. After being denied, he breaks it off with Pen and eventually joins the military (the Royal Scots?), after which (an unspecified amount of time) he goes to jail for "following men's orders." He is released and he meets Mr. Widmore again and is told that he can never contact her or see her again. He then begins to train for the race (to prove he is a great man), enters, and crashes on the Island. He spends three years there, mostly with Kelvin, and then meets our LOSTies. After the computer is destroyed (the first time) Desmond goes to find the sailboat and disappears for two weeks. He shows up again just in time to turn the failsafe key (after the computer is destroyed for the second time...this time for good!) and has his crazy-real flashback. He wakes up in anguish as he realizes he is back on the Island...but he is changed...significantly...as he can now see "flashes" of the future.
What led me to the conclusion (at least for now) that it was simply a flashback (and not some sort of timp loop or time travel) were the old ring-selling woman (which I believe to be Desmond's subconscious, as he mentions) and the Dharma/Hatch elements incorporated into it — Pen saying "the end of the world," the microwave beeping, "delivery for 815," the Mama Cass song, the art in Widmore's office, etc. Desmond simply relived/dreamed/hallucinated the most important days of his life right after spending three years in that hatch. So it's kind of like when you fall asleep watching a movie and have a dream with lots of
elements of that movie.
Some people are claiming this episode confirms the time loop/time travel theory, and "Flashes Before Your Eyes" certainly can support this. I've read theories that say every character is in a time loop and that's why eerie things happen like, for example, Locke predicting when the rain would start and stop in season 1, Walt showing up all over the place, etc. Some also believe that the flashbacks we see are not entirely truth, but instead are memories based on fact and influenced by what is currently happening on the Island. So when other characters show up in pre-Island flashbacks, they were "placed" there by the person and are not what exactly happened. And that's what memories usually consist of — part fact, part what we wanted, or didn't want, to happen.
The other major theory this episode brought to life is alternate realities, which is based on the time loop theory. If these characters are living the experience over and over, Desmond might have created an alternate
reality by purchasing the ring and/or warning the bartender and getting hit in the head. But as we learned. the universe has a way of course-correcting — so does that mean the bartender would have eventually
"paid his debt," and Desmond's interference would not have mattered as much? Des did throw the ring away...
I am not turning down these theories yet because, while they may be a
little "out there" right now, it seems that LOST is heading deeper into the science fiction realm. And I like it. I'm ready for it to get really weird and abstract and continue to "kill off" casual viewers. But I am not convinced of the time shifting quite yet. I think the evidence still allows us to live in the somewhat believeable world and see Desmond's experience as a flashback.
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As far as what is happening on the show as a whole...I believe we are just now entering the real mythology of the Island. Our LOSTies are just one small piece of the puzzle. While we got to know them very well, they are
many other entities on this Island. Season 3 will focus on the Others, season 4 on another central entity/mystery, with (hopefully) season 5 as the finale. The LOSTies will continue to be integral to the mysteries of their new home but there is a much bigger picture.
The Hanso Foundation is still involved. There is an interactive game, The LOST Experience (which consists of puzzles, video clips, bogus websites, etc.), that provides an alternate storyline. It occurs in the present (2006-2007) and tells the story of how Alvar Hanso was recently in jail (possibly because of what he was doing on the Island, or possibly because of his colleagues). The game will not change anything that happens in the show, since it takes place after our LOSTies' experience is over, but may provide insights on what exactly The Hanso Foundation is all about. This is assuming, of course, that there is an end to their experience...
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Well that's all for now, folks. Hope you enjoyed the episode! I can't wait to see what the writers have up their sleeves!
Namaste.
SFO
I hope this message finds you well. My head is still spinning from this episode as it was such a pivotal point in the show. Of course it was very LOSTesque and yet completely different from anything we have seen
before. I think it represents Desmond very well, and how he differs from everyone else on the Island.
--
Season 3 — Episode 308
"Flashes Before Your Eyes"
Oh where to begin.....Well, in the spirit of a new episode format, I'll try something different too. Let me just tell you what I think happened in this episode and what I believe is happening overall...
While I was at first confused by this episode, I've come to the conclusion that it was pretty straightforward — "Flashes Before Your Eyes" was
Desmond's interactive flashback. Right after he turned the failsafe key (or right before, I haven't decided), Desmond's life flashes before his eyes (hence the episode name) and he relives two extremely important (and painful) days from his life prior to crashing on the Island. This might seem obvious, but at first I was looking for something that wasn't
there. I wanted it to be some crazy time traveling episode where LOST presented something completely unexpected...but eventually I realized that by giving us a straightforward episode, that's exactly what they
were doing.
This flashback was the earliest in Desmond's life that we've seen. This is how I understand his life so far: He has been with Penny for two years and goes to ask Mr. Widmore's permission for her hand in marriage. After being denied, he breaks it off with Pen and eventually joins the military (the Royal Scots?), after which (an unspecified amount of time) he goes to jail for "following men's orders." He is released and he meets Mr. Widmore again and is told that he can never contact her or see her again. He then begins to train for the race (to prove he is a great man), enters, and crashes on the Island. He spends three years there, mostly with Kelvin, and then meets our LOSTies. After the computer is destroyed (the first time) Desmond goes to find the sailboat and disappears for two weeks. He shows up again just in time to turn the failsafe key (after the computer is destroyed for the second time...this time for good!) and has his crazy-real flashback. He wakes up in anguish as he realizes he is back on the Island...but he is changed...significantly...as he can now see "flashes" of the future.
What led me to the conclusion (at least for now) that it was simply a flashback (and not some sort of timp loop or time travel) were the old ring-selling woman (which I believe to be Desmond's subconscious, as he mentions) and the Dharma/Hatch elements incorporated into it — Pen saying "the end of the world," the microwave beeping, "delivery for 815," the Mama Cass song, the art in Widmore's office, etc. Desmond simply relived/dreamed/hallucinated the most important days of his life right after spending three years in that hatch. So it's kind of like when you fall asleep watching a movie and have a dream with lots of
elements of that movie.
Some people are claiming this episode confirms the time loop/time travel theory, and "Flashes Before Your Eyes" certainly can support this. I've read theories that say every character is in a time loop and that's why eerie things happen like, for example, Locke predicting when the rain would start and stop in season 1, Walt showing up all over the place, etc. Some also believe that the flashbacks we see are not entirely truth, but instead are memories based on fact and influenced by what is currently happening on the Island. So when other characters show up in pre-Island flashbacks, they were "placed" there by the person and are not what exactly happened. And that's what memories usually consist of — part fact, part what we wanted, or didn't want, to happen.
The other major theory this episode brought to life is alternate realities, which is based on the time loop theory. If these characters are living the experience over and over, Desmond might have created an alternate
reality by purchasing the ring and/or warning the bartender and getting hit in the head. But as we learned. the universe has a way of course-correcting — so does that mean the bartender would have eventually
"paid his debt," and Desmond's interference would not have mattered as much? Des did throw the ring away...
I am not turning down these theories yet because, while they may be a
little "out there" right now, it seems that LOST is heading deeper into the science fiction realm. And I like it. I'm ready for it to get really weird and abstract and continue to "kill off" casual viewers. But I am not convinced of the time shifting quite yet. I think the evidence still allows us to live in the somewhat believeable world and see Desmond's experience as a flashback.
--
As far as what is happening on the show as a whole...I believe we are just now entering the real mythology of the Island. Our LOSTies are just one small piece of the puzzle. While we got to know them very well, they are
many other entities on this Island. Season 3 will focus on the Others, season 4 on another central entity/mystery, with (hopefully) season 5 as the finale. The LOSTies will continue to be integral to the mysteries of their new home but there is a much bigger picture.
The Hanso Foundation is still involved. There is an interactive game, The LOST Experience (which consists of puzzles, video clips, bogus websites, etc.), that provides an alternate storyline. It occurs in the present (2006-2007) and tells the story of how Alvar Hanso was recently in jail (possibly because of what he was doing on the Island, or possibly because of his colleagues). The game will not change anything that happens in the show, since it takes place after our LOSTies' experience is over, but may provide insights on what exactly The Hanso Foundation is all about. This is assuming, of course, that there is an end to their experience...
--
Well that's all for now, folks. Hope you enjoyed the episode! I can't wait to see what the writers have up their sleeves!
Namaste.
SFO
07 February 2007
Has the day finally arrived?
February 7th —
It is the day I have been waiting for since 10:00 p.m. November 8th, 2006.
All of those who know what this day means, I congratulate you, and wish you the best during the next 16 weeks as we delve deeper into the mystery and mythology of the Island, our second home.
I have a feeling it is all just beginning...
It is the day I have been waiting for since 10:00 p.m. November 8th, 2006.
All of those who know what this day means, I congratulate you, and wish you the best during the next 16 weeks as we delve deeper into the mystery and mythology of the Island, our second home.
I have a feeling it is all just beginning...
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